-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-24 0:56:00
-- [原創(chuàng)]With在og中的用法總結(jié)
前一陣在總結(jié)語法,應小郁的要求將自己的心得總結(jié)貼出來,不過本人的語法很菜,看了以后希望各位不要我身上扔菜葉,有不對的地方請大N們多指點??!
With在og中的用法總結(jié)(僅代表個人觀點):
1)with緊跟在中心詞后作定語表限定修飾,例如,og141和og152中,with表限定,who表非限定;og102,with與that均表限定;og229d與og200中with表限定。
2)主語,with短語,謂語+賓語。在此種結(jié)構(gòu)中,例如,og179,og205,with短語結(jié)構(gòu)作為狀語修飾主語,如果with結(jié)構(gòu)放在句末則有歧義,不知是修飾主語還是賓語,例如og212e。
3)主語與with有逗號隔開,形式有“with短語,主句”和“主句,with”,with短語修飾主句中的主語,with表示“有”的意思,例如,og19,og158。
4)主語+謂語+賓語,with短語。with短語修飾賓語,with表示“有”的意思,例如,og114。
總結(jié):從1)2)3)4)可以看出,with緊跟修飾語作定語時表限定,with與修飾詞用逗號隔開則作為狀語表示非限定,
例如og102. Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin\'s ragtime opera Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion.
(A) Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged(正確答案)
(B) Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it(可以推斷此句中with希望與that同樣表限定,此選項的錯誤點在staging時態(tài)問題。此外,With后可以用doing形式,不過with短語是作為副詞作狀語,不能修飾名詞,參照og192選項D)
(E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself(表達的不簡潔)
例如og78. The root systems of most flowering perennials either become too crowded, which results in loss in vigor, and spread too far outward, producing a bare center.
(C) with the result of loss of vigor, or spreading(應用with結(jié)構(gòu)不存在正確性問題,只是相對resulting不簡潔。而且可以推斷此處with結(jié)構(gòu)與which與resulting均表非限定)
(D) resulting in loss of vigor, or spread。(正確答案)
5)with短語作副詞時不可以修飾名詞,
例如og192. Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English. Spanish. and Italian words.
(C)to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added(正確答案)
(D)with English, Spanish, and Italian words having been added to it (with短語作副詞時不可以修飾名詞。此外,having done永遠不可以做后置定語修飾名詞!這條可以作為絕對錯誤原則,排除選項?。?BR> 6)一般用法,with詞組,例如crowd with(og170),along with(og 201),associated with(og 219),credit with(og 226),face with(og 247),comparison with(og 254),collision with(og 257)。
總之,with介詞短語,從功能上來講,介詞短語可以做主語、表語、賓語、定語、狀語等,主要看with短語在句中的位置和相對應的功能,來判斷是否合乎句子的邏輯表達。
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-- 作者:joe11
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-24 3:13:00
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好貼!
添加一句: with 短語的邏輯主語要與句意所要表達的修飾詞一致。不能有歧義。
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-25 10:21:00
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對,這一條很重要,謝謝joe11
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-- 作者:灰色小姿
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-25 15:35:00
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我想問一下with跳躍修飾的問題 OG104
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-----vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, with meat as a rarity.
以前上XDF的時候老師說這里的with 可以跳躍修飾vegetarian
可是遇到了另一題 大全補充題3
The department defines a private passenger vehicle as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds.
(A) as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(B) to be one that is registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(C) as one that is registered to an individual and that has a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(D) to have a gross weight less than 8,000 pounds and being registered to an individual
(E) as having a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds and registered to an individual
答案是C 我選了A 為什么這里的with就不能跳躍修飾vehicle呢?
到底with 跳躍修飾的規(guī)則是怎么樣的?
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-- 作者:yumeeiko
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 13:33:00
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上一句中有“———”后面的例舉是對vegetarian的解釋和進一步說明。
而下面的那道題,如果修飾的話,with 會被理解為修飾individal,邏輯不通的。
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 21:53:00
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The department defines a private passenger vehicle as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds.
with的修飾造成歧義,不知with修飾individual,或vehicle,或得partment。此題可以從OG212題中得到例證。
212. The Baldrick Manufacturing Company has for several years followed a policy aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving the efficiency of its distribution system.
(A) aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving
(E) with the aim to decrease operating costs and to improve
The best choice, A, Also, with the aim... improve can easily be construed as referring to the Baldrick Manufacturing Company and so does not refer unequivocally to policy.(不管是誰with the aim 只要有兩種可能性,就是有歧異)
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 22:12:00
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我認為,ETS使用with是喜歡的原則是:
with短語表解釋說明時,表非限定,此時,一般會用逗號隔開,或跳躍修飾。例如,OG114,OG179,OG205。
with短語表限定時才緊跟修飾詞后。例如,OG141,OG152。
而with沒有用逗號隔開時,又表示非限定的解釋說明,往往就會造成修飾歧義。例如,OG212
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-- 作者:JerryGuan
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 22:44:00
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以下是引用灰色小姿在2004-11-25 15:35:00的發(fā)言:
我想問一下with跳躍修飾的問題 OG104
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-----vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, with meat as a rarity.
以前上XDF的時候老師說這里的with 可以跳躍修飾vegetarian
可是遇到了另一題 大全補充題3
The department defines a private passenger vehicle as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds.
(A) as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(B) to be one that is registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(C) as one that is registered to an individual and that has a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(D) to have a gross weight less than 8,000 pounds and being registered to an individual
(E) as having a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds and registered to an individual
答案是C 我選了A 為什么這里的with就不能跳躍修飾vehicle呢?
到底with 跳躍修飾的規(guī)則是怎么樣的?
小姿MM,第一題,XDF要跳讓他們跳吧,咱不跳;這里的with meat as a rarity,是獨立主格結(jié)構(gòu)修飾它前面的所有的部分。
于是第二題,也就是不存在跳不跳的問題了。直接就說明with嫁給了離它最近的那個名詞。
我不認為with可以往前跳過名詞去修飾另一個名詞;當然對于OG212例子我覺得不能認為可以充足地反駁到以上觀點。
212中with the aim 首先是介詞短語,介詞短語放在主謂賓結(jié)構(gòu)后面,會有歧義,見樓主的第2條,同樣的歧義還出現(xiàn)在:OG263 256 262 等。
記?。航樵~短語既想嫁給離它最近的名詞,也想嫁給前面的謂語動詞,所以,看到它要小心點兒。
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-- 作者:JerryGuan
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 22:50:00
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非常開心又見到了一個JERRY,而且實力超強!加油。
以下是引用jerryyang在2004-11-24 0:56:00的發(fā)言:
前一陣在總結(jié)語法,應小郁的要求將自己的心得總結(jié)貼出來,不過本人的語法很菜,看了以后希望各位不要我身上扔菜葉,有不對的地方請大N們多指點??!
With在og中的用法總結(jié)(僅代表個人觀點):
1)with緊跟在中心詞后作定語表限定修飾,例如,og141和og152中,with表限定,who表非限定;og102,with與that均表限定;og229d與og200中with表限定。
2)主語,with短語,謂語+賓語。在此種結(jié)構(gòu)中,例如,og179,og205,with短語結(jié)構(gòu)作為狀語修飾主語,如果with結(jié)構(gòu)放在句末則有歧義,不知是修飾主語還是賓語,例如og212e。
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總之,with介詞短語,從功能上來講,介詞短語可以做主語、表語、賓語、定語、狀語等,主要看with短語在句中的位置和相對應的功能,來判斷是否合乎句子的邏輯表達。
有兩個地方值得討論一下:
1、狀語只修謂語,不修主語;我覺得“狀語修飾主語”應改為:“介賓短語補充說明逗號前面的內(nèi)容”
2、介詞短語可以做主語,這可能是筆誤。介賓短語不可以做主語,即使是倒裝,也不能認為它是主語,同理there is a desk 這句中也不能認為there 就是主語。
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-- 作者:灰色小姿
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-27 17:21:00
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記?。航樵~短語既想嫁給離它最近的名詞,也想嫁給前面的謂語動詞,所以,看到它要小心點兒。
太形象生動了,記住了記住了
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-- 作者:灰色小姿
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-27 17:25:00
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多謝兩位Jerry和yuemmikoMM
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-- 作者:davidcopper
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-27 20:43:00
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我覺得with的使用應該分為兩種情況
1. ,+with引導的獨立主格結(jié)構(gòu), 在句末修飾前面的句子或動作
2. with引導的介詞短語, 這時和其他介詞短語一樣, 在主謂賓句子中如果想作狀語或修飾主語的定語, 就要把介詞短語提至謂語動詞之前以避免產(chǎn)生歧義, 如果是作修飾賓語的定語, 好象一般采用分詞短語或從句, 很少有獨立的介詞短語在句末的(不管前面是否加逗號)
這只是我目前觀察的, 如果大家有發(fā)現(xiàn)介詞短語在主謂賓句末作正確答案的, 請指正.
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-- 作者:JerryGuan
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-30 13:59:00
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很少有獨立的介詞短語在句末的(不管前面是否加逗號)
不是很少,就是沒有,嘿嘿
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-12-2 21:56:00
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謝謝jerryguan的支持!
謝謝jerryguan給我指出這么多錯誤!
可惜我不是“實力超強”,而是屢戰(zhàn)屢敗的常敗將軍,希望有一天能殺G成功。
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-24 0:56:00
-- [原創(chuàng)]With在og中的用法總結(jié)
前一陣在總結(jié)語法,應小郁的要求將自己的心得總結(jié)貼出來,不過本人的語法很菜,看了以后希望各位不要我身上扔菜葉,有不對的地方請大N們多指點??!
With在og中的用法總結(jié)(僅代表個人觀點):
1)with緊跟在中心詞后作定語表限定修飾,例如,og141和og152中,with表限定,who表非限定;og102,with與that均表限定;og229d與og200中with表限定。
2)主語,with短語,謂語+賓語。在此種結(jié)構(gòu)中,例如,og179,og205,with短語結(jié)構(gòu)作為狀語修飾主語,如果with結(jié)構(gòu)放在句末則有歧義,不知是修飾主語還是賓語,例如og212e。
3)主語與with有逗號隔開,形式有“with短語,主句”和“主句,with”,with短語修飾主句中的主語,with表示“有”的意思,例如,og19,og158。
4)主語+謂語+賓語,with短語。with短語修飾賓語,with表示“有”的意思,例如,og114。
總結(jié):從1)2)3)4)可以看出,with緊跟修飾語作定語時表限定,with與修飾詞用逗號隔開則作為狀語表示非限定,
例如og102. Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged in 1911, Scott Joplin\'s ragtime opera Treemonisha was not produced until 1972, sixty-one years after its completion.
(A) Except for a concert performance that the composer himself staged(正確答案)
(B) Except for a concert performance with the composer himself staging it(可以推斷此句中with希望與that同樣表限定,此選項的錯誤點在staging時態(tài)問題。此外,With后可以用doing形式,不過with短語是作為副詞作狀語,不能修飾名詞,參照og192選項D)
(E) With the exception of a concert performance with the staging done by the composer himself(表達的不簡潔)
例如og78. The root systems of most flowering perennials either become too crowded, which results in loss in vigor, and spread too far outward, producing a bare center.
(C) with the result of loss of vigor, or spreading(應用with結(jié)構(gòu)不存在正確性問題,只是相對resulting不簡潔。而且可以推斷此處with結(jié)構(gòu)與which與resulting均表非限定)
(D) resulting in loss of vigor, or spread。(正確答案)
5)with短語作副詞時不可以修飾名詞,
例如og192. Cajuns speak a dialect brought to southern Louisiana by the four thousand Acadians who migrated there in 1755; their language is basically seventeenth-century French to which has been added English. Spanish. and Italian words.
(C)to which English, Spanish, and Italian words have been added(正確答案)
(D)with English, Spanish, and Italian words having been added to it (with短語作副詞時不可以修飾名詞。此外,having done永遠不可以做后置定語修飾名詞!這條可以作為絕對錯誤原則,排除選項?。?BR> 6)一般用法,with詞組,例如crowd with(og170),along with(og 201),associated with(og 219),credit with(og 226),face with(og 247),comparison with(og 254),collision with(og 257)。
總之,with介詞短語,從功能上來講,介詞短語可以做主語、表語、賓語、定語、狀語等,主要看with短語在句中的位置和相對應的功能,來判斷是否合乎句子的邏輯表達。
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-- 作者:joe11
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-24 3:13:00
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好貼!
添加一句: with 短語的邏輯主語要與句意所要表達的修飾詞一致。不能有歧義。
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-25 10:21:00
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對,這一條很重要,謝謝joe11
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-- 作者:灰色小姿
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-25 15:35:00
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我想問一下with跳躍修飾的問題 OG104
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-----vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, with meat as a rarity.
以前上XDF的時候老師說這里的with 可以跳躍修飾vegetarian
可是遇到了另一題 大全補充題3
The department defines a private passenger vehicle as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds.
(A) as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(B) to be one that is registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(C) as one that is registered to an individual and that has a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(D) to have a gross weight less than 8,000 pounds and being registered to an individual
(E) as having a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds and registered to an individual
答案是C 我選了A 為什么這里的with就不能跳躍修飾vehicle呢?
到底with 跳躍修飾的規(guī)則是怎么樣的?
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-- 作者:yumeeiko
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 13:33:00
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上一句中有“———”后面的例舉是對vegetarian的解釋和進一步說明。
而下面的那道題,如果修飾的話,with 會被理解為修飾individal,邏輯不通的。
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 21:53:00
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The department defines a private passenger vehicle as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds.
with的修飾造成歧義,不知with修飾individual,或vehicle,或得partment。此題可以從OG212題中得到例證。
212. The Baldrick Manufacturing Company has for several years followed a policy aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving the efficiency of its distribution system.
(A) aimed at decreasing operating costs and improving
(E) with the aim to decrease operating costs and to improve
The best choice, A, Also, with the aim... improve can easily be construed as referring to the Baldrick Manufacturing Company and so does not refer unequivocally to policy.(不管是誰with the aim 只要有兩種可能性,就是有歧異)
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 22:12:00
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我認為,ETS使用with是喜歡的原則是:
with短語表解釋說明時,表非限定,此時,一般會用逗號隔開,或跳躍修飾。例如,OG114,OG179,OG205。
with短語表限定時才緊跟修飾詞后。例如,OG141,OG152。
而with沒有用逗號隔開時,又表示非限定的解釋說明,往往就會造成修飾歧義。例如,OG212
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-- 作者:JerryGuan
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-26 22:44:00
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以下是引用灰色小姿在2004-11-25 15:35:00的發(fā)言:
我想問一下with跳躍修飾的問題 OG104
The diet of the ordinary Greek in classical times was largely vegetarian-----vegetables, fresh cheese, oatmeal, and meal cakes, with meat as a rarity.
以前上XDF的時候老師說這里的with 可以跳躍修飾vegetarian
可是遇到了另一題 大全補充題3
The department defines a private passenger vehicle as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds.
(A) as one registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(B) to be one that is registered to an individual with a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(C) as one that is registered to an individual and that has a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds
(D) to have a gross weight less than 8,000 pounds and being registered to an individual
(E) as having a gross weight of less than 8,000 pounds and registered to an individual
答案是C 我選了A 為什么這里的with就不能跳躍修飾vehicle呢?
到底with 跳躍修飾的規(guī)則是怎么樣的?
小姿MM,第一題,XDF要跳讓他們跳吧,咱不跳;這里的with meat as a rarity,是獨立主格結(jié)構(gòu)修飾它前面的所有的部分。
于是第二題,也就是不存在跳不跳的問題了。直接就說明with嫁給了離它最近的那個名詞。
我不認為with可以往前跳過名詞去修飾另一個名詞;當然對于OG212例子我覺得不能認為可以充足地反駁到以上觀點。
212中with the aim 首先是介詞短語,介詞短語放在主謂賓結(jié)構(gòu)后面,會有歧義,見樓主的第2條,同樣的歧義還出現(xiàn)在:OG263 256 262 等。
記?。航樵~短語既想嫁給離它最近的名詞,也想嫁給前面的謂語動詞,所以,看到它要小心點兒。
[此貼子已經(jīng)被作者于2004-11-26 22:56:24編輯過]
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-- 作者:JerryGuan
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非常開心又見到了一個JERRY,而且實力超強!加油。
以下是引用jerryyang在2004-11-24 0:56:00的發(fā)言:
前一陣在總結(jié)語法,應小郁的要求將自己的心得總結(jié)貼出來,不過本人的語法很菜,看了以后希望各位不要我身上扔菜葉,有不對的地方請大N們多指點??!
With在og中的用法總結(jié)(僅代表個人觀點):
1)with緊跟在中心詞后作定語表限定修飾,例如,og141和og152中,with表限定,who表非限定;og102,with與that均表限定;og229d與og200中with表限定。
2)主語,with短語,謂語+賓語。在此種結(jié)構(gòu)中,例如,og179,og205,with短語結(jié)構(gòu)作為狀語修飾主語,如果with結(jié)構(gòu)放在句末則有歧義,不知是修飾主語還是賓語,例如og212e。
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總之,with介詞短語,從功能上來講,介詞短語可以做主語、表語、賓語、定語、狀語等,主要看with短語在句中的位置和相對應的功能,來判斷是否合乎句子的邏輯表達。
有兩個地方值得討論一下:
1、狀語只修謂語,不修主語;我覺得“狀語修飾主語”應改為:“介賓短語補充說明逗號前面的內(nèi)容”
2、介詞短語可以做主語,這可能是筆誤。介賓短語不可以做主語,即使是倒裝,也不能認為它是主語,同理there is a desk 這句中也不能認為there 就是主語。
[此貼子已經(jīng)被作者于2004-11-26 22:57:28編輯過]
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-- 作者:灰色小姿
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-27 17:21:00
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記?。航樵~短語既想嫁給離它最近的名詞,也想嫁給前面的謂語動詞,所以,看到它要小心點兒。
太形象生動了,記住了記住了
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-- 作者:灰色小姿
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-27 17:25:00
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多謝兩位Jerry和yuemmikoMM
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-- 作者:davidcopper
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-27 20:43:00
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我覺得with的使用應該分為兩種情況
1. ,+with引導的獨立主格結(jié)構(gòu), 在句末修飾前面的句子或動作
2. with引導的介詞短語, 這時和其他介詞短語一樣, 在主謂賓句子中如果想作狀語或修飾主語的定語, 就要把介詞短語提至謂語動詞之前以避免產(chǎn)生歧義, 如果是作修飾賓語的定語, 好象一般采用分詞短語或從句, 很少有獨立的介詞短語在句末的(不管前面是否加逗號)
這只是我目前觀察的, 如果大家有發(fā)現(xiàn)介詞短語在主謂賓句末作正確答案的, 請指正.
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-- 作者:JerryGuan
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-11-30 13:59:00
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很少有獨立的介詞短語在句末的(不管前面是否加逗號)
不是很少,就是沒有,嘿嘿
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-- 作者:jerryyang
-- 發(fā)布時間:2004-12-2 21:56:00
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謝謝jerryguan的支持!
謝謝jerryguan給我指出這么多錯誤!
可惜我不是“實力超強”,而是屢戰(zhàn)屢敗的常敗將軍,希望有一天能殺G成功。

